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Tom Administrator
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Posted: July 12 2005, 10:16 PM Post subject:
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Unfortunately there are idiots who can not let people enjoy something. Their lives are so pathetic that they only feel human when they are ruining something for someone else. I have shut down the chat room for now. When I figure a way to make it more secure, I will re-open it.
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raysammom Super Member
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Posted: July 12 2005, 10:25 PM Post subject:
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THANKS TOM
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Tom Administrator
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Posted: July 13 2005, 6:50 AM Post subject:
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The idiots appear to be college students. Here is the IP information for "Specific Girl":
Search results for: 146.163.219.99
OrgName: Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville
OrgID: SIUAE
Address: #6 Hairpin Drive
City: Edwardsville
StateProv: IL
PostalCode: 62026-1068
Country: US
For "Sammich":
Search results for: 67.149.182.244
OrgName: WideOpenWest LLC
OrgID: WOPW
Address: 1674 Frontenac Rd
City: Naperville
StateProv: IL
PostalCode: 60563
Country: US
CustName: WIDEOPENWEST MICHIGAN
Address: 333 STEPHENSON HWY
City: TROY
StateProv: MI
PostalCode: 48083
Country: US
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lespring Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 7:19 AM Post subject:
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So, what do you do with that? They were using "our" names as well. The one who was going under "Reylah" is the one who made the death comment. Woudln't that be considered a threat, and punishable?
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Reylah Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 8:09 AM Post subject:
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OMG I didn't see that! That (obviously) was not really me.
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lespring Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 8:47 AM Post subject:
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They were using other people's usernames, like angelbaby, joey'smom, I think those are the only other ones I saw being used.
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Joey'sMom Senior Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 9:22 AM Post subject:
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I didn't even realize they were using my name!!! I was too busy trying to organize my Disney pictures to post!
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Stephlong Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 9:35 AM Post subject:
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They were using alot of our names. It was kind of confusing to follow, because we were all responding too. They only used my user name a few times. I know they did Reylah alot, Angelbaby, Joeys Mom, then they started using Daddio too.
Hey did anyone really call those phone numbers they gave us. I think Krisy said her husband called, and then I thought maybe someone else did too.
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lespring Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 9:57 AM Post subject:
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I didn't, but after the threat comment I said something about, "now that you've made a threat, you can be charged with internet stalking, harassement, and threatened assault."
The reply I got back was, "I'm sorry..I wasn't trying to harass anyone. Please don't call me!" So I wonder if it was a real number???? It would be interesting to know if it is a real number, if it matches the ISP's that Tom found?
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tsmith Senior Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 10:50 AM Post subject:
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I'll be damned! Guess whose brother in law is a history professor at SIU in Edwardsville?
Guess who is going to turn this in? Guess who will knock their heads into next century if there is a problem again considering I am thirty minutes away from Edwardsville???
ME ME ME!!! Hooray. This is a good day.
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Mary Beth Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 11:03 AM Post subject:
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Way to go Amanda.
Let us know what you find out from you BIL.
Mary Beth
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southernbelle Super Moderator
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Posted: July 13 2005, 11:10 AM Post subject:
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I'll be damned! Guess whose brother in law is a history professor at SIU in Edwardsville?
Guess who is going to turn this in? Guess who will knock their heads into next century if there is a problem again considering I am thirty minutes away from Edwardsville???
ME ME ME!!! Hooray. This is a good day. |
....You Go Gurl. You aint no Hollarback Gurl! LOL Go Amanda Go. These two need to know how what they are doing is hurtful and punishible.
AMY
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tsmith Senior Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 11:30 AM Post subject:
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Grrrr... You see, I live in Missouri, in the middle of nowhere, and I always make fun of the hoosiers always talking about kicking someones butt... BUT... I can't help but not go nutty when something like his happens... I feel the blood go to my face, and it's on. LOL
When I read about what they did to Angelbaby( whom I have a soft spot for) and the rest of you guys, I thought DARN! I wish I knew where they lived... I can't believe one of these came from SIU in Edwardsville... I was actually HAPPY! (i get so mad lol)
I already forwarded it to my BIL who has been there for years and years... He'll do something. He doesn't stand for ignorance, expecially from a college student... You see, I can back up my threats without laying a hand on anyone... All it would take is a trip to Edwardsville (which I go to regularly anyway) with a van full of my black belt friends in full uniform. Won't take much. Tee hee.
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Reylah Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 11:55 AM Post subject:
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I got an IM from one of the people involved in the chat room fiasco last night. He says he left shortly after and Specific Girl is his handle. He is willing to take responsibility for his actions, but is not the only one to blame. Took some guts and he asked me to post this:
I'm the Specific Girl you speak of. Just saying I've not hacked, or whatever terminology you may use, your chat room. The posts I made I didn't even think were mean, I was actually trying to steer the conversation away from a mean direction.
Anyways, I look like, and may be, a jerk regardless. Sammich and I found out when he sent me a link to your chat room that I was him. Anyways, I didn't use anyone else's name and saw some crude things being said and left. So do what you want. I'm not hard to find. I'll assume you've gathered whats wrong with the chat room if not I'll help out.
I'm sorry for the trouble I've caused you.
He said you can tell what HE posted by the IP addys from the chat. Tom you've got that, so uh, I have no idea. I just want to see the right person NAILED. Thanks for listening guys - hugs to the kids
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Tom Administrator
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Posted: July 13 2005, 11:57 AM Post subject:
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I received this email from one of the two involved:
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I'm the Specific Girl you speak of. Just saying I've not hacked, or whatever terminology you may use, your chat room. The posts I made I didn't even think were mean, I was actually trying to steer the conversation away from a mean direction.
Anyways, I look like, and may be, a jerk regardless. Sammich and I found out when he sent me a link to your chat room that I was him. Anyways, I didn't use anyone else's name and saw some crude things being said and left. So do what you want. I'm not hard to find. I'll assume you've gathered whats wrong with the chat room if not I'll help out.
I'm sorry for the trouble I've caused you.
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tsmith Senior Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 12:18 PM Post subject:
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Oh well. His email just brings tears of sympathy to my eyes. It's done. The print out is probably sitting on my BIL's desk right now, just waiting to be taken to the proper person. No sympathy here. People need to learn the hard way.
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lespring Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 1:12 PM Post subject:
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I am all for playing hardball....just ask my teenagers.
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Mary Beth Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 1:12 PM Post subject:
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Tom, Maybe we can turn these kids around. Sounds like one of them may already be turned around. Specific Girl did not really put anything up mean that I read just a few dumb things. Sammich on the other hand is a different story.
Mary Beth
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Stephlong Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 1:21 PM Post subject:
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Mary Beth, I agree Specific Girl wasnt quite as nasty as Sammich. But I wonder if it/they could have been the same person?
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tsmith Senior Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 1:38 PM Post subject:
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I didn't even read it... BUT... whether or not someone said something "meaner than the other" doesn't matter. My SIX year old knows better, and you would surely think a college student would. While I was in college, I may have been playing quarters and burping up Budweiser... BUT I never would have dreamed of doing something like that. "Educating the ignorant" is a term I like to use, and while I can't stop the world and it's inhabitants from being asses, if I CAN do something, then I WILL. I am not a "wait and see" kind of girl. No matter who was the "meanest" You can bet that "specific girl" knows "sammich" and vise versa... Burn one, and burn the rest. Some people MUST learn the hard way... And you better believe if the Dean at SIU Edwardsville finds out and confronts this person, as soon as they get scared that they are jeopardizing the college education their parents (most likely) bought for them, this little dude will pee in his pants. NO MERCY! (tee hee)
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Elizabeth Cameron 3/11/99
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lespring Super Member
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Posted: July 13 2005, 2:47 PM Post subject:
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The person who used Raylah's name was the one who made the threats. I won't even post them here...but I wrote them down.
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Posted: July 13 2005, 3:20 PM Post subject:
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Glad I missed it-no computer I am around "allows" me to go in the chat room and I cannot figure out why? so I can never go in there anyway.
_________________ Michele
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Tom Administrator
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Posted: July 13 2005, 4:47 PM Post subject:
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OK, the chat room should be OK now. I don't think they can recreate the prank they pulled.
By the way, based on the IP addresses of the two, they were not the same person.
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Posted: July 13 2005, 5:11 PM Post subject:
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FYI if it helps, someone posted a phone number in the chat. Most likely it was not their number, but a friend who was also posting to the chat. That's what you get for collaborating with pranksters - pranked yourself. Anyway, in case it helps, I still have the number, and the name and address I looked up for the person with that number. I won't list it again here in case this person is an innocent bystander, but if anyone needs it let me know and I'll email or PM it.
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Posted: July 13 2005, 6:15 PM Post subject:
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I just wanted to say that they may not be college age. Alot of campuses are used in the summer for camps and high school bands and such.
AMY
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Tom Administrator
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Posted: July 14 2005, 5:37 AM Post subject:
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Received this last night:
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I doubt you guys will validate my account, so i'm just emailing this with you. This is going to be my only post here and i wanted to clear up a few things. Neither this sammich person nor specific girl threatened anyone in this chat. It was me, My name is John. The phone number that one of your people called was a fake, just randomly taken from a phone book. I wasn't acting with sammich or specific girl in any way shape or form, I did everything of my own volition. I used a flaw in your chatroom where you could just change names in the top chat bar to become another person. What i did was wrong, and it was totally my fault.
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Posted: July 14 2005, 10:22 AM Post subject:
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Interesting. That's the closest thing I've seen to an apology since the Clinton administration.
Thanks, John, kinda. I hope to meet you, someday, for coffee.
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Posted: July 14 2005, 11:05 AM Post subject:
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LOL...Jeff you've made me smile:)
Keep us posted Amanda. Looks like ol' sammich and specific girl really railed their buddy for being such a jerk...are they scared? Well, I'd like to have coffee with you guys, too, Jeff.
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Reylah Super Member
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Posted: July 14 2005, 7:11 PM Post subject:
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So it was John who used someone's name( I forget who) and called our kids "retsad stains?" and that they think we should have never had them? Somehow I am not comforted.....and the only other one I saw log on other than sammich was slutpuppy. As for me, I am glad they are running scared - and I doubt they are HS kids because they wouldn't let them on the internet that late - they have curfews. At least they did when I was in camp(like 20 years ago........)May they have someone be as nice to them as they were to us 
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Posted: July 14 2005, 9:41 PM Post subject:
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i don't mean to stir anything back up or anything but what is "retsad stains"?
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Posted: July 14 2005, 10:06 PM Post subject:
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probably a misspelling of the "r" word. . . either a typo or an attempt to bypass a filter.
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Posted: July 15 2005, 5:01 AM Post subject:
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It was the out and out threat that really got to me. It's one thing to be insulting, a totally different thing to make a threat, in jest or not.
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tsmith Senior Member
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Posted: July 15 2005, 10:46 AM Post subject:
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Yes... BIL is dealing with it on Monday... If nothing else, it will get the word out. I say again, NO MERCY. teehee. I would love to meet for coffee too... Just so I could pour it down his crotch. (Cha-ching)
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