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PostPosted: July 13 2010, 11:45 PM    Post subject:
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I'm just wondering how you guys add new words, new signs to your kiddos. Ali's post made me think of where we're at with the Speech Therapy since I pretty much don't have it right now.
I'm happy with Paige's progress, she can communicate when she needs something, but I would like to help her learn more and begin talking and signing more than just needs I guess.
For example she has signs for more, eat, drink (which is actually milk), all done, bath, dog, dad, her version of mom (when she feels like it!), banana, and a few more signs occasionally.
She has some verbal words (in her own way): dog, dad, all done, what's that, yup (yes).
When I do try to see if she'll say or sign a new word.. I get laughed at! I get I probably look funny sometimes, but she just smirks at me like "ya, right mom, I don't need to say that!"
I guess I just don't know where to go from here!

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PostPosted: July 14 2010, 6:47 AM    Post subject:
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Signing Time is the best (www.signingtime.com) It not only teaches signs, but increases vocabulary. Mya was signing a few words at a year old, now she's 4 and knows over 300 words. (I stopped counting a while ago Smile ) She loves to watch the videos, and I learn the signs that way too. She's still not talking very much (think she has apraxia, so that's slowing her down) so the signing has saved us so much frustration.

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PostPosted: July 14 2010, 8:54 AM    Post subject:
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I agree, Signing Time Smile Love love love what it has taught Brook. First it started w/ her doing the signs (she knows hundereds of signs) then she started saying the word, now she reads the word on the screen and can now read the sight words she knows in books. She knows all her colors, numbers, shapes, abc's, etc and this month we've started w/ days of the week and months. Buying the series was the absolute best investment I ever made!!
When I met Rachel I bawled like a baby b/c she is my communication HERO!!!

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PostPosted: July 14 2010, 9:20 AM    Post subject:
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Work on matching her verbal vocalizations! Please look at Dr MacDonalds website and teachmetotalk websites as they have lots of ideas. The best way to learn vocabulary is to experience the real thing and lots of repetition. Do not overwhelm with too much languae as all the child will hear is blah,blah, blah, blah and tune it out. Everytime you past a light switch have her turn it on or off and say the words. Work on one concept at a time. Spend one day working just on "on". She needs to hear a word and make the connection about 100 times before she will say the word.


"Shoes on! " saying it along with the sign everytime you put on her shoes. etc..... Routine dialog is very important. Nate's converstaiton and ping-pong turn taking occur almost daily around routine dialog.

N: "What's that?" He hears is father closing a dresser drawer.
Me: "I don't know....what's that"
N: "It's daddy"
Me: "What is daddy doing?"
N: "Daddy is getting dressed."
Me: "Yes, daddy is getting dressed. He has to work"
N: "Daddy works at the ospital"

He tends to drop off the first consonant sound in the middle of sentences. We have this dialog...every single morning or some version of it. He may here the shower running and tell me daddy is taking a shower. But it is the routine and the practice that has let to longer and longer sentences....more vocabulary and more evidence of higher level thinking.

Nate turns 6 in September so it has been a process. Language acquistion has been tough for Nate....he didn't learn to parrot or mimmick till after age 3....so we had to teach him this first. I am thankful to the Hanen course Nate and I took when he was almost 2 1/2 years of age which was based on a research project that was done with Dr James MacDonald. I am also thankful to his school SLP who threw out those first speech goals another therapist had given him when he started school to work on individual sounds and articulation to change them to work on whole words and increase his functional vocabualary. I am also happy she "got Nate" and was suspicious of Apraxia of Speech and read the book by Pam Marshalla....Becoming Verbal with Childhood Speech Apraxia which led her to a seminar by Pam and working later with oral motor techniques, some cueing and vowel progression.

Sadly many speech therapist in early intervention do not how to work with a child with speech delays. They are trained to treat articulation and working on speech that is already there. They convince us parents that it is too early to work with our kids and that we have to wait. In the mean time valuable time is wasted...as there is a lot that can be done. First we need for them to learn to take turns and learn to mimmick sounds. Often exclammations and animals sounds are early sounds that tend to work. It is also helpful to get them to say sounds and words when they are interested in the activity or play we are doing. Nates early intervention teacher that came to the home wanted Nate to say the animal sounds....well Nate was not intereted in the Fp barn and animals as he wanted to play with a ball. The kids was and is totally into balls. She got absoultly no where with Nate as he just tuned her out and would not mimmick or say those animals sounds. She came monthly for over 6 months and didn't change her approach at all. It was a total waste for Nate not to mention my time and my frustration. As I believed that Nate was not ready for speech therapy. Listen to teachmetotalk and they will provided such insight for you. I wish Laura Mize would have been around and had a podcast when Nate was 1-2 years of age.

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PostPosted: July 14 2010, 3:27 PM    Post subject:
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Paige does love signing time - we just got our first 2 for her birthday, we had been borrowing before that - another sign and verbal word - Baby!
Which podcasts from Teach me to talk do you like best? I've found it on Itunes - there are sooo many!

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PostPosted: July 14 2010, 8:25 PM    Post subject:
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Well, what is working for Katelyn is Starfall.com. She loves it and the computer! We just go through the letters and at first I would say the word and do the sign for the word. She has long since mastered all those signs, so then I made her vocalize to get the next screen. Now we still use it to imitate. She has to attempt to say each of the words.

There is also more.Starfall with even more things you can do like colors & numbers. It is about $15 for an entire year. Best $15 I spent this year! Katelyn knows all her colors because of this!

I've also got to go listen to those teach-me-to-talk podcasts. Smile

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PostPosted: July 15 2010, 3:33 AM    Post subject:
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We don't have signing times in the UK, but Ethan is definitely motivated by a childrens tv programme that uses signing! I also use downsed See & Learn Programme that uses picture flashcards to aid with general speech and language development. You sign and say the picture and they have activites where you also do picture matching. I do a little bit every day and find the repeated activites really helps Ethan to learn more signs.

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PostPosted: July 15 2010, 6:45 AM    Post subject:
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Christopher is about to turn 3. He didn't start signing until just over a year ago, but has over 100 signs now. After the first 2 Baby Signing Times, we just went with his interests and looked up the sign on www.aslpro.com. Things that were a regular part of his life, we learned the sign for and used it OVER AND OVER until he finally got it and started using it. Now he tries to imitate a new sign as soon as I show it to him, but in the beginning it took lots of repetition.

The signs he was interested in weren't necessarily the ones we wanted him to learn. We wanted him to learn the "useful" signs like "more," but he wanted to know "car", "truck," etc. So we just started learning signs for whatever really interested him, and now he can communicate most of what he wants to - not just when he needs something, but pointing out things he sees and hears, etc.

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PostPosted: July 15 2010, 12:20 PM    Post subject:
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Ditto...Signing Time and Starfall and flash cards. After all the badgering with the TV advertising, we purchased "Your Baby Can Read" and Lucas is hot/cold with it; he's picked up a little bit but it really requires a lot of dedication and time in front of the TV which we haven't been willing to do.

Great suggestions from Sherry which I am definitely going to check out too. As she mentioned, one of the most important things is repetition and providing context...now Lucas spends his life parroting EVERYTHING (good or bad) we say and one of his favorite new lines is "I did it!" which he's learned to use in the most appropriate places.

Kristin, I have been frustrated because Lucas has mastered all the Starfall letters and many of the activities and I didn't know where to go next so I was excited to see there's a "more" starfall -- thanks to you, I just joined! It looks like a great investment and I know Lucas will love it as he's so familiar with the characters, sounds, etc.

Good luck with vocab! It's always been my number one focus.

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PostPosted: July 16 2010, 8:20 AM    Post subject:
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Kristin....thank you for the more.starfall.com link!!!!! I didn't know this existed. I have just gone to the alphabet with Nate and because I have been familiar with this site for years with his siblings I never paid close attention that they made additions and changes. WOW! I will be signing Nate up. I may even order some of the Kindergarten stuff for Nate. I have some old workbooks from his siblings and the Starfall books but I see they have added so much more.

The podcast at teachmetotalk.....go to the website and click on the blogradio icon on the right side of the screen and you will get a better description of the contents of the podcasts. I suggest to start with the first few. I also liked the ones that pertained to apraxia...I believe they are the August 2009 podcasts. I have insomnia so I have been able to pretty much listen to all of them and they help me fall back to sleep. Not that they are boring but I find them comforting.

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HI again,

I've been sort of pondering your question over the past couple days, and thought of a couple more things. One is that our ST suggested at one point (in the early days of signing when we were still trying to get him started) that we all sign whatever words we could whenever we were talking with each other, so he would see other people modelling signing to communicate. Someone else above also already mentioned flash cards. Christopher has always liked picture cards, and books for toddlers that just introduce things (1 picture per page type). We used those a lot, teaching him the names and sometimes signs for the things on the cards. Also, we were sort of advised to start with nouns, then add more verbs, and now we're working more on adjectives and position words. Trend and a couple other companies make sets of cards for just about anything, available in most teacher or homeschool supply stores.

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PostPosted: July 17 2010, 10:12 PM    Post subject:
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Just in case you didn't see allllll the responses before mine...Signing Time! Haha! Very Happy

Seriously, I don't think *I've* taught Lucy a new word in about a year. Ms. Rachel has been responsible for all of it!

We have been working on putting those words together. We started with "I want...". Lucy has all the words she needs to express what she wants, so now we're prompting her to put it all together. The verbal prompt we give is either starting the lead-in "I want..." and then she'll repeat it and fill in the blank, or sometimes when she comes in and says "juice" (for example) I will prompt her with "Lucy, tell me what you want" and then she'll say "I want juice, please". There has been no trick to that, just lots of reinforcement and consistency.

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